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ItsNotReallyEditing (talkcontribs)

Looks like Jakek created another alt. He is asking me to compete in editing.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Dealt with. I could have overlooked him using alts if he didn't do the exact same things that got him banned last time. Ty for bringing it to my attention.

ItsNotReallyEditing (talkcontribs)

Sorry to bother you, but I was looking through the recent changes log to see if there was something I could edit, when I saw the user Regularity create an interesting pastebin in their user page containing some mod recommendations with some slightly NSFW language (sections 1007a and 1008). Does the wiki have any rules?

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Regularity is using it to replace the mod list pages that the wiki has tried and failed to maintain in the past. Users do have fairly free rein in their user spaces, though obviously common sense applies. We can't host totally inappropriate language/content etc. because ultimately this is Ludeon's wiki.

Mentioning RJW as an existing mod is fine afaic, being explicit about whats in it might not be depending on how detailed it gets. I'd prefer if it drew less explicit attention to the more controversial aspects of the mod, but its also probably not worth stepping in with the mod-hammer as it currently stands. If you want, feel free to politely address it with them on their talk page.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Actually I did make it slightly less explicit, just to avoid getting the wiki in trouble. If they have an issue with it, we can talk about it, but I'd rather not risk it.

Crasheripot (talkcontribs)

Hi, Harakoni

Why do you disagree that left-aligning the table improves readability?

See e.g.

Thanks for directing me to the proper place to have this conversation if this isn't it. Seems I didn't have the rights to add a Discussion to the article itself. Also, I don't know whether I'll be notified of updates to this discussion. :)

Jimyoda (talkcontribs)

Usually left-aligned looks much better than center-aligned, but in this case not necessarily. Here, left-aligned looks proper but somewhat crowded and much of the white space that would make the page look clean is lost to one side. The center-aligned is a but funky but I think the white space makes it look more inviting and improves readability.

Also, as already mentioned, if changing one of the thoughts table, they all ought to be changed. For something like this where one change actually obligates making the change in multiple places, I would create a sandbox page under my user page, copy the table, and do all the changes and experimentation I want, settle on what looks best, and maybe get some input from others.

All that said, you could still be right, but it's hard to tell when it doesn't have the the coloration and row dividers.

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Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Jim has covered my opinion pretty well, but that said, but really my main problem is whatever it the standard is, it needs to match on ALL the thoughts tables and i didn't think it was worth changing all of them to that standard.

But if you think it looks cleaner, while I disagree a little, I'm not opposed to you implementing a standard change. My first of two edits has a version that preserves the color/dividers/etc if you want to have a go at implementing it.

Also yeah you won't have page creation rights until 10 page edits and the bot gets around to autoconfirming you. Its clunky but unfortunately hiw it works. Posting here was fine, thats what this page is for. Please always feel free to come with questions, or join us on the discord server.

Jimyoda (talkcontribs)

If you don't have page creation rights yet then feel free to experiment using the Sandbox.

Cronusgradient (talkcontribs)

Hi. I'm unable to edit pages or add new topics to them. I created this account a couple minutes ago to change bionic stomach's mass from 99999kg to 2.00kg, but am unable to do so. I am also unable to add new topics to your page, so I am forced to respond to this topic which is irrelevant to the issue I saw, apologies. Seeing as you were the last person to edit the bionic stomach page, I thought I'd ask you here. That's all, thank you.

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Summary by Harakoni

Market Value template not rounding properly. Updated code to fix.

Dakon (talkcontribs)

I don't know if you are the right person to contact but I noticed an issue with the rounding of the market values in the info box on the top right of pages about weapons. The market values are rounded to the nearest ten, which is incorrect.

Example: I recently corrected the market value of the EMP launcher to 505 but it is rounded up to 510 in the info box.

As described on the page about market value, "items with a market value of above 200 will have their market value rounded to be divisible by 5, with a remainder of 2.5 being rounded down."

The market values on the page are rounded correctly, which creates an inconsistency.

It would be great if you could let someone know that has the permissions to fix this.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Yup, I'm the right person, or one of them at least. There definitely is an issue in the rounding calcs somewhere. I'll take a look and see if I can get it sorted.

But also always feel free to investigate and experiment if you want to. The issue is very likely in Template: infobox main or Template: Market Value both of which you should have permission to edit (also templates used on a page are listed at the bottom when you edit). If you're editing a template, just check a few pages its used on and make sure that you didn't break anything. If you did, then revert. No harm, no foul.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Alright, it appears to be working as intended now. There was an issue with the implementation of the Template:Market Value. I've done some rough testing and it seems to now match the method listed on Market Value. If you find any more problems with the template, or anywhere you think its being used to round values, let me know.

Dakon (talkcontribs)

Seems to work perfectly now. Thanks.

Summary by Harakoni

Accepted Moderator Role.

Zesty (talkcontribs)

Hi Harakoni,

If you are interested, I could use an additional wiki moderator. I see you have been making great contributions to the wiki since March, and I think you'd be a good fit for the mod team.

Please let me know if you're interested.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

What would the responsibilities be? Part of why I have been so active lately is free time due to Corona slowing everything down. I'll eventually have to scale back at least somewhat and don't want to commit if I can't deliver. That said, I am interested in helping out more if I can.

Zesty (talkcontribs)

Responsibilities are mostly:

  • Cleaning up spam
  • Helping users delete pages that aren't needed anymore
  • Helping users with wiki questions

It's a pretty straight forward job, and you seem like a good fit. We could use the help given the elevated level of spam recently. It's no big deal if you change your mind later -- you'd always be welcome back to the mod team whenever you find that you do have some time.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Then absolutely. I'd be glad to help.

Zesty (talkcontribs)

I've bumped up your usergroup to mod.

If you use Discord, please send me your Discord User#ID and I'll invite you to the wiki Discord.

PigeonGuru (talkcontribs)

Would you like to start a sandbox within your userspace?

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Actually yes, thats a great idea. Its probably better than making a mess of my user page Harakoni (talk) 04:07, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

PigeonGuru (talkcontribs)
Harakoni (talkcontribs)


Creating page so new users can post if neccesary

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

New users can't create talk pages so

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